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  Our assembly expenses were $16,900 for ONE DAY - Please share yours

  by nmthinker in

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  ~2300 in attendance.

  one day cost of $16,900!.

  this was at romeoville, which was built ground up in the 90's and was fully paid for by the illinois circuits!.

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  The one I recently attended had the $10 per assigned publisher charge. I heard a couple of folks gasp at the charge when read. LOL I think it was around 3.50 the last service year.
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  Assembly baptisms/attendance - keep 'em coming!

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  don't forget to post your reported assembly and convention attendance and baptisms and whether they are higher or lower than customary (if you know).. here's some detail passed to me of the last circuit assembly held at surrey (uk) assembly hall.. attendance 922 baptisms 3 (half circuit).

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  Recently attended one with 1800 people and 9 baptized.
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  Leah Remini - Scientology

  by tresdecu in

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  last night on 20/20, they did an interview with leah remini (american actress know for king of queens tv show) she was raised in scientology since the age of 8, and recently left rather publicly.

  she re-enforced what we all know, that they are bat shit crazy (like any cult) but also talked about how hard is it to leave something that's been a part of you for so long.. so many interesting parallels to our world (former world) of jw'dumb.

  it's a great ep to watch with someone you are trying to awaken.

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  I watched with my wife as well. Her comments "it sounds just like our religion"! I almost didn't know what to say because I was stunned to hear those exact words. It prompted a nice discussion over disfellowshipping/disconnecting. Baby steps for sure but the parallels are obvious.

  For the record, I think Scientology is much crazier than JWism and much more dangerous. I think LDS is a better comparison but all are high control religions that have dangerous elements.

  Oh and I love the "knowledge report"! So not only do you tell on your fellow members, but you submit an affidavit detailing what happened. And they keep it on file forever!

  I'm going to follow up on the discussion because I think she sees the high control elements and it make her uncomfortable. She knows that I don't believe anymore and I attend and submit time for show to avoid the chaos. She doesn't really believe either but thinks its just a normal religion and no better or worse than anything else. It's information like this that really shows people like her that this religion is worse than others because of the extreme shunning. If they dropped that one thing, it would make the religion a lot more tolerant. Blood and other stuff is so dangerous because it's reinforced by shunning. If you drop that, everything changes. However, that's the one thing they will never drop.
  
  
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  Something interesting!

  by John Aquila in

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  2. experiences

  i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

  we both served as elders for years.

  he is in his late 70s.

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  This is really hard to believe but encouraging if true. Sorry, but practically speaking it would only take one person who has a change of heart to blow the whole thing up. That's why doubting JWs tend to keep it to themselves because they 1) don't know who to trust and 2) even if you trust someone today, they could rat you out tomorrow because of the cult mind control. In short, you can't trust any active JW with information that you don't want shared when it comes to disagreeing with the WTS. Those that do ultimately get discovered.
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  What Written & Unwritten Rules Do Jehovah's Witnesses Have?

  by minimus in

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  jws should "not go beyond what is written".. please list examples of how they do not follow that bible instruction..

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  Just take a look at that Correspondence Guidelines that was posted earlier today. 100+ pages of WT rules that the rank & file aren't necessarily aware even apply to them.
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  Jehovah's Witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves

  by OrphanCrow in

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  british columbia, canada.

  jehovah's witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves.

  a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

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  OrphanCrow, thanks for the clarification. I forgot this case was Canadian which explains the difference from what I'm used to (US)
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  Jehovah's Witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves

  by OrphanCrow in

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  british columbia, canada.

  jehovah's witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves.

  a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

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  I guess when I read visitation rights, I see that as something legally enforceable. I didn't realize that grandparents had the ability to legally to see a grandchild with the same enforcement as a parent. I was always under the assumption that parents had complete control over who their kids spent time with.

  Where is the line drawn? If I had grandparents (or anyone else for that matter) who I though was bad association for my kids, there's no way I'd let the person near them. That's really messed up that there is even a legal battle here.

  At least the grandparents aren't shunning the grandchild so I guess that's a positive. I know of several situations where the parents are df'ed and the grandparents shun the grandkids as well. What a jacked up cult.
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  Jehovah's Witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. beliefs

  british columbia, canada.

  jehovah's witness grandparents ordered to keep faith to themselves.

  a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

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  How do the grandparents have any rights at all in this case?
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  Today's watchtower: obey us, no matter what

  by Tornintwo in

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  2. bible

  today's watchtower:.

  obey us, obey us even when it seems strange, obeying our man made hierarchy equates to obeying god, sacrifice your own interests, work for us, don't be independent, put your own interests aside, obey some more, preach for us, build for us, enjoy it, obey some more, forgive when we are jerks to you and mistreat you, accept your changed assignment even if it seems cruel and doesn't make sense, don't complain if we move you (eg.

  ) because you might have to move in the new world, remember you are being trained to obey, remember to put your own interests aside, that's the way we are designed to live - it will only make you happy!

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  Doubting Bro

  Someone made a comment about the last Bethel downsizing a few years ago not realizing there is one that was recently announced.

  The more I think about the JW version of paradise, the more it sounds like hell. No freedom to choose your job? no freedom to choose where you live? At least in today's world, you can choose basic things like that (to some degree at least in the 1st world).

  Even if everything they said is true, I don't want to live there! I'd rather die (actually I know I will at some point) in this wicked world than to spend one day in "paradise".
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  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. beliefs

  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

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  love it and will do this next time I'm at a borefest